Inclusion

Why Caregiving Might Be The Most Meaningful Work: Lessons from T.L. Boyd

In this episode of Meaningful Work Matters, Dr. T.L. Boyd joins Andrew Soren to explore how caregiving, particularly in its non-traditional forms, influences leadership, resilience, and inclusion in the workplace.

Dr. Boyd is an Assistant Professor of Management and Leadership at Texas Christian University. His work focuses on historically marginalized populations and the often-unseen dimensions of meaningful work, such as caregiving responsibilities that fall outside traditional definitions.

Together, they examine how recognizing caregiving as real work can change how we support employees, build more inclusive environments, and challenge outdated assumptions about who is “fit” for leadership.

Making the Invisible Visible

Boyd opens the conversation by explaining his research focus: bringing visibility to stories that are often left out of organizational life.

As a Black man and an academic, he emphasizes how “me-search” can be just as powerful as research. His personal and professional identities are tightly linked, which helps shape the stories and questions he brings into his academic work.

At the heart of this episode is a call to expand how we define work.

Traditional workplace culture often draws a firm line between what counts as work and what belongs to life outside of it. Caregiving, especially the kind that doesn’t fit into conventional molds, tends to get ignored entirely.

Boyd challenges that divide. As he puts it:

“Meaningful work isn’t just what we’re paid to do. It’s what we do with intention and purpose.”

What Counts as Caregiving?

When people hear the word “caregiver,” many picture a parent caring for a child. But Boyd’s research invites a much broader definition. Non-traditional caregivers include those caring for aging parents, disabled siblings, partners, or anyone outside the classic nuclear family model.

In fact, many caregivers may not even identify themselves with that label. They might not wear a badge or disclose their responsibilities at work, but their roles still influence how they show up.

Boyd shares examples from his own community: a friend who is the primary caregiver for both her younger brother with Down syndrome and her mother with physical disabilities, and another who advocates for her son on the autism spectrum. These roles require resilience, empathy, and complex coordination skills that often rival those of high-level executives.

As Boyd puts it, “You need a CEO? Get a mom.”

Caregiving as a Strength, Not a Deficit

Boyd champions a shift from deficit thinking to a strengths-based approach. Traditionally, caregiving is seen as a distraction or a limitation when it comes to professional advancement. Boyd flips that narrative.

Non-traditional caregivers often build skills that are deeply valuable in the workplace. These include:

  • Resilience: The ability to face setbacks and find creative ways forward

  • Empathy: A deep understanding of others’ needs and emotions

  • Time management: The capacity to prioritize, juggle, and plan effectively

  • Adaptability: Navigating unexpected changes with flexibility

These are not soft skills. They are leadership skills. Yet many organizations fail to recognize them because they are developed outside of formal roles.

Boyd argues that this hidden labor is often the most formative. “Caregivers are doing the work of inclusion and leadership every day,” he explains. “But unless organizations are willing to look beyond surface-level metrics, they miss it.”

Family-To-Work-Spillover

One concept Boyd raises in the episode is how caregiving experiences can carry over into the workplace. He describes this as “family-to-work spillover,” where the skills, empathy, and resilience developed at home begin to shape how someone leads or collaborates at work.

For example, someone who has navigated the healthcare system for a parent may become more patient and resourceful at work. A foster parent might bring a deeper sense of empathy to their team.

Boyd calls this dynamic “enrichment,” where lessons learned in one part of life make another part stronger. He encourages both individuals and organizations to stop treating caregiving as something separate from work and to start treating it as an asset.

What Organizations and Managers Can Do

The episode turns toward practical implications with a challenge for leaders: Are your policies and workplace cultures designed for everyone, or only for people in traditional family structures?

Boyd and Soren explore how often support systems like parental leave or caregiver benefits are narrowly defined. Many non-traditional caregivers either don’t qualify or aren’t aware of what’s available to them.

The solution starts with awareness.

Boyd emphasizes that managers have a responsibility to understand the caregiving realities of their teams, not just in one-on-one check-ins but in how they shape team culture. He describes managers as “climate engineers” who set the tone for openness and inclusion.

If leaders want employees to be honest about their needs, they have to build environments where people feel safe to share. That means being trained, being proactive, and being willing to learn from those with lived experience.

Creating Space for Growth Without Pressure

Soren raises an important tension in the conversation: how to explore the growth potential in caregiving without gaslighting people who are struggling.

Boyd emphasizes that the first step is not asking caregivers to do more emotional labor. Instead, organizations should begin by evaluating their own systems. Before assuming that someone is underutilizing available resources, leaders should ask a different question: Do people even know this support exists?

As Boyd puts it, the burden shouldn’t fall on potentially overwhelmed caregivers to navigate confusing systems or justify their needs. Support begins with awareness, and that awareness must come from leadership.

He encourages HR professionals, team leads, and inclusion advocates to take the following steps:

  1. Audit policies: Are current benefits accessible to non-traditional caregivers?

  2. Train leaders: Equip managers with language and tools to support disclosure and dialogue.

  3. Create space: Normalize conversations around caregiving, just like we do for other forms of diversity.

  4. Recognize skills: Acknowledge caregiving as valid experience that builds leadership capacity.

Why This Matters for Meaningful Work

The concept of meaningful work often centers on personal fulfillment, but that fulfillment is shaped by the broader systems we work within. If those systems ignore caregiving, they are missing a key part of what makes people whole.

Meaningful work cannot be separated from a meaningful life. And caregiving is one of the most meaningful, yet overlooked, forms of work there is.

Organizations that want to retain talent, build inclusive cultures, and prepare the next generation of leaders need to start asking better questions. Not just about performance, but about what people carry with them when they come to work each day.

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Rethinking Meaningfulness Through a Cultural Lens: Lessons from Mohsen Joshanloo

In this episode of Meaningful Work Matters, host Andrew Soren speaks with Dr. Mohsen Joshanloo, a personality and cross-cultural psychologist whose research explores mental well-being, emotions, personality traits, and culture. Mohsen is an Associate Professor in the Department of Psychology at Keimyung University in South Korea and an Honorary Principal Fellow at the Centre for Wellbeing Science at the University of Melbourne. With a global perspective, he incorporates data from countries across six continents to challenge the assumption that emotional happiness and autonomy are universal ideals.

In their conversation, Soren and Joshanloo explore how different cultures define wellbeing, the phenomenon of “fear of happiness,” and why a sense of purpose may matter more than emotional happiness—especially at work.

The Western Bias in Wellbeing Models

Joshanloo opens with a critique of many dominant models of psychological wellbeing, which often originate in Western societies. These models prioritize individualistic traits like self-esteem, autonomy, and personal growth—an assumption that meaning must be self-generated to be authentic. These ideals don't always translate across cultures.

“The criticism isn’t that other cultures don’t value autonomy or purpose,” Joshanloo explains, “but that the definition of those things changes depending on cultural context.”

In what Joshanloo describes as collectivist or traditional societies, meaning is often derived from social roles, tradition, or guidance from elders. Far from being seen as conformist, these sources of meaning are deeply valued and can form the foundation of a fulfilling life.

Eudaimonic Wellbeing vs. Emotional Happiness

A central distinction in the conversation is between emotional happiness and eudaimonic wellbeing. Emotional happiness refers to short-term positive feelings, while eudaimonic wellbeing is rooted in dimensions like purpose, personal growth, and living in alignment with one’s values.

Mohsen’s longitudinal research has shown that:

  • Emotional happiness and eudaimonic wellbeing are correlated in the short term.

  • Over time, eudaimonic wellbeing predicts future emotional happiness—but not the other way around.

This finding suggests that chasing emotional highs may not lead to sustainable wellbeing. Instead, investing in purpose and meaning may be a more durable path to fulfillment.

Understanding Fear of Happiness

One of Mohsen’s most well-known contributions is his long-running research on the fear of happiness. Across 25+ countries, his team has explored why people in some cultures are hesitant to fully embrace or express happiness.

This fear isn’t about rejecting joy altogether, but rather a belief that intense happiness may lead to negative outcomes—like envy, loss, or punishment. In some cultures, visible happiness may invite the “evil eye” or signal carelessness, making restraint a form of protection.

“People may fear emotional happiness,” says Joshanloo, “but rarely do they fear growth, purpose, or contribution.”

This insight challenges the idea that emotional happiness is the ultimate human goal and helps expand the conversation around what it means to support wellbeing—particularly in diverse or global settings.

What Purpose Tells Us About Money and Satisfaction

In a global dataset spanning 94 countries, Joshanloo examined the relationship between income, purpose, and life satisfaction. His findings were striking: people without a clear sense of purpose placed more importance on income when evaluating their lives. For those with a strong sense of purpose, the correlation between income and life satisfaction was significantly weaker.

In other words, meaning can buffer our reliance on external markers of success.

This insight has direct implications for how we think about motivation, performance, and compensation at work. While money is important, purpose may be a more stable source of satisfaction—especially when work feels meaningful.

From Research to the Workplace: Why Mattering Comes First

So, how can organizations apply these insights?

Joshanloo emphasizes that before people can pursue purpose, they need to believe they matter. Feeling invisible or powerless undermines motivation, whereas believing you can make a difference is the first step toward purpose-driven engagement.

“You can’t make people feel they don’t matter and then expect them to be purposeful,” he says.

For leaders, this means that fostering inclusion and psychological safety is not just a cultural goal—it’s a strategic one. Only when employees feel valued can they fully engage with their work and find meaning in it.

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